PHP、Python 如何转 java，试了几次都失败了，郁闷

[zaishanfeng2014]

想玩玩安卓。但是看到java那长的一坨一坨的变量名函数名参数名就想死，怎么能克服心理障碍呢？

[loveyu]

从基础慢慢来

[mthli]

从画界面开始。其实安卓没啥难得。
你觉得函数名啥的麻烦的话，用IDEA，够爽。我写Python的时候都没这么爽过。

[zaishanfeng2014]

@mthli 总觉得java就是把人思维固话，死板的很，不适应，有心理障碍

[ovear]

@zaishanfeng2014 那是你没习惯小驼峰，要去看objective-c。。那你不得疯掉。。比java更长。。
java如果严格按照规范来写，只要有一点点编程基础的人，都看得懂
而php python这种规范约束力不是很大的
随便换个人来看，就要把别人看吐血
变量名 abcde。。

[SquirrelMAN]

try Swift

[mthli]

@mthli 不是呀，思维固化不能用语言这种东西来说明吧。我周围的同学有从Python入门编程的，到现在一直认为其他语言太难写了，麻烦，所以从来不用其他语言。个人认为其Python水平也挺渣。
勇于尝试新事物才是防止思维固化的根本。

[mthli]

@ovear 是的，其实我本身挺讨厌动态语言的这种性质。老实说写到后面自己脑袋都抽抽。

[Automan]

我觉得越长越好啊。。。现在 PHP也是这个趋势

[typcn]

@Automan 为什么会是越长越好。。。 不应该是 用最短的名称最清晰的表达含义么

[Automan]

@typcn 我是喜欢读起来越符合自然语言越好，像OC 那样就很舒服，反正有 IDE 在...敲起来长短不是问题啊

[typcn]

@Automan vim or 记事本党哭了

[ooh]

你失败几次，我已经三次。

[Automan]

@typcn 记事本下不管用啥变量我都会哭

[zaishanfeng2014]

The Zen of Python
Beautiful is better than ugly.
Explicit is better than implicit.
Simple is better than complex.
Complex is better than complicated.
Flat is better than nested.
Sparse is better than dense.
Readability counts.
Special cases aren't special enough to break the rules.
Although practicality beats purity.
Errors should never pass silently.
Unless explicitly silenced.
In the face of ambiguity, refuse the temptation to guess.
There should be one-- and preferably only one --obvious way to do it.
Although that way may not be obvious at first unless you're Dutch.
Now is better than never.
Although never is often better than *right* now.
If the implementation is hard to explain, it's a bad idea.
If the implementation is easy to explain, it may be a good idea.
Namespaces are one honking great idea -- let's do more of those!

[ibigbug]

用 IDE 吧。真的比写 Py 爽，回车那一下。

[kevinroot]

直接来了个项目就上了，不过旁边有大神指导

[jyootai]

别转了，玩精

[oott123]

我失败三次了。
目前正在第四次尝试中…

[zaishanfeng2014]

@oott123 看来我不是一个人额

[skybr]

试试直接转scala