@matrix1010 otter 作者被你炸出来了

@maypok86 It seems to have triggered a bug in the otter, and it's slowing it down terribly.

go test -benchmem -run=^$ -bench . github.com/lxzan/memorycache/benchmark
goos: linux
goarch: amd64
pkg: github.com/lxzan/memorycache/benchmark
cpu: AMD Ryzen 5 PRO 4650G with Radeon Graphics
BenchmarkMemoryCache_Set-12 21004170 72.60 ns/op 9 B/op 0 allocs/op
BenchmarkMemoryCache_Get-12 43787251 40.11 ns/op 0 B/op 0 allocs/op
BenchmarkMemoryCache_SetAndGet-12 45939994 45.35 ns/op 0 B/op 0 allocs/op
BenchmarkRistretto_Set-12 12190314 122.2 ns/op 112 B/op 2 allocs/op
BenchmarkRistretto_Get-12 25565082 44.60 ns/op 16 B/op 1 allocs/op
BenchmarkRistretto_SetAndGet-12 11713868 97.06 ns/op 27 B/op 1 allocs/op
BenchmarkOtter_SetAndGet-12 13760 89816 ns/op 13887 B/op 0 allocs/op
PASS
ok github.com/lxzan/memorycache/benchmark 44.081s


func BenchmarkOtter_SetAndGet(b *testing.B) {
var builder, _ = otter.NewBuilder[string, int](1000)
builder.ShardCount(128)
mc, _ := builder.Build()
for i := 0; i < benchcount; i++ {
mc.SetWithTTL(benchkeys[i%benchcount], 1, time.Hour)
}

b.ResetTimer()
b.RunParallel(func(pb *testing.PB) {
var i = atomic.Int64{}
for pb.Next() {
index := i.Add(1) % benchcount
if index&7 == 0 {
mc.SetWithTTL(benchkeys[index], 1, time.Hour)
} else {
mc.Get(benchkeys[index])
}
}
})
}

@maypok86

> I'd like some kind of answer to this, to be honest, because I've been told so much about how only memorycache can fight ristretto, but so far it's been disappointing.

MC is just an obscure library, and I'm sure hardly anyone would say that.

@maypok86 The heap is used to quickly remove expired elements. Redis seems to randomly check for expired elements, which is not as efficient as the heap. In fact, users don't care if a library strictly implements the LRU algorithm, all they want is a KV store with TTL.

I've updated the benchmarks. My local cachebench hit test was too much of a pain in the ass to run, so I gave up on it.

goos: linux
goarch: amd64
pkg: github.com/lxzan/memorycache/benchmark
cpu: AMD EPYC 7763 64-Core Processor
BenchmarkMemoryCache_Set-4 7657497 133.3 ns/op 27 B/op 0 allocs/op
BenchmarkMemoryCache_Get-4 23179834 58.10 ns/op 0 B/op 0 allocs/op
BenchmarkMemoryCache_SetAndGet-4 20667798 59.09 ns/op 0 B/op 0 allocs/op
BenchmarkRistretto_Set-4 7739505 321.4 ns/op 135 B/op 2 allocs/op
BenchmarkRistretto_Get-4 12482400 97.67 ns/op 18 B/op 1 allocs/op
BenchmarkRistretto_SetAndGet-4 7265832 140.4 ns/op 31 B/op 1 allocs/op
PASS
ok github.com/lxzan/memorycache/benchmark 31.137s

@maypok86 It's stupid to try and convince people tirelessly. I don't see a problem with using indexed priority queues to implement memory caching with TTL, MC works well in my company's projects. I also don't see a problem with benchmarking based on random strings, redis keys often contain data ids. In MC, if you only use GetWithTTL and SetWithTTL, it's just LRU.

@maypok86 It's not like ristretto didn't consider using a minimal heap https://github.com/dgraph-io/ristretto/blob/5239be55a219459d7ce4f6e9f99c8cea2c0b9d3a/policy.go#L163

@maypok86 The only competitor to MemoryCache (MC) is Ristretto, neither of which is GC optimized. GC optimization is not all positive gain, Codec overhead is not small. MC seeks to replace Redis in light-use scenarios, where indexed priority queues are the best data structure, simple and efficient.

@nullcache 是土播鼠就行了

能算财运吗

@hieroglyphs 不喜欢折腾的话很适合用 debian stable

@jjx 我有个 13 代 intel 的笔记本，跑 windows11 还是挺卡的

@hongchends1 Windows11 能用了吗? 文件管理和系统设置卡顿, 系统响应慢, 右键菜单折叠...

@mephisto 少年精力旺盛. linux desktop 有点像黑苹果, 各种驱动问题.

@Cooky 只有 11 糟糕, 7, 8, 8.1, 10 我用着都挺好

@MrKrabs 苹果也不是正统 unix

@llhhss jetbrains remote 很辣鸡, 直接打开文件夹体验还行. io 开销是可接受的, 保证日常使用流畅即可.

@llhhss windows gui + linux shell

@xsen 内存够用吗?

@CEBBCAT 我用 13.x 的时候一切正常，升到 14.0 各种问题。