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“评测门”事件升级 AV-Test 揭露腾讯在评测中严重作弊

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  •   miyuki · 2015-05-02 14:20:03 +08:00 via Android · 4442 次点击
    这是一个创建于 3484 天前的主题,其中的信息可能已经有所发展或是发生改变。
    第 1 条附言  ·  2015-05-02 15:15:28 +08:00
    引用 @liuhaotian 的 reply
    官方说该文档内容还未调查完成,只是第三方泄漏链接
    21 条回复    2015-05-02 22:15:08 +08:00
    liuhaotian
        1
    liuhaotian  
       2015-05-02 14:21:44 +08:00   ❤️ 1
    xiaoyaoking
        2
    xiaoyaoking  
       2015-05-02 14:23:58 +08:00
    国内部分大厂商耍流氓也不是一天两天了。已经习以为常。

    搞的现在写个 安卓APP 都TM得 结束半天进程, 搜狗 阿里旺旺 QQ 甚至QQ音乐 都要监视安卓设备。
    miyuki
        3
    miyuki  
    OP
       2015-05-02 14:29:25 +08:00 via Android
    OTZ 似乎官方并没有这样的消息
    miyuki
        4
    miyuki  
    OP
       2015-05-02 14:31:40 +08:00 via Android
    @xiaoyaoking
    @liuhaotian
    弄错了抱歉 目前的状态是还在调查,官方并未指出具体公司名称
    zxy
        6
    zxy  
       2015-05-02 14:47:12 +08:00
    不是三大家一起说360么,看来彼此都在公关
    eastphoton
        7
    eastphoton  
       2015-05-02 14:49:35 +08:00
    http://bbs.kafan.cn/thread-1825522-1-1.html
    根据卡饭用户对AV-TEST的询问
    > Hello, this document is meant for internal use only as the investigation hasn't been finished yet. The link was spread by a 3rd party without our consent so we had to remove it. Kind regards!

    > 而腾讯已然打出造谣的标签
    http://weibo.com/1773148625/CfQUKwAN0


    坐等AV-TEST调查完成
    davidyin
        8
    davidyin  
       2015-05-02 14:49:52 +08:00
    这些工具不敢用
    liuhaotian
        9
    liuhaotian  
       2015-05-02 14:56:55 +08:00
    我现在有点理不清时间轴。
    http://www.av-test.org/fileadmin/pdf/VB-AVC-AVT-press-release.pdf
    http://av-test.com/tests/projects/av-test_tencent_performance_issue.pdf

    这两个哪一个先发布?在前一个文件中已经提到说“知道 QQ、百度有这样的标记,但是这样没有任何有利之处甚至某些时候反而不利”。

    As part of the investigation into Qihoo 360, counter‐accusations were levelled by the company against
    two fellow Chinese security firms, Baidu and Tencent. Analysis of products submitted for testing by
    these companies turned up some unexpected flags within their products, marked with the names of
    several test labs and implying some difference in product behavior depending on the environment they
    were run in – similar flags were also found in Qihoo products. However, no evidence could be found that
    this gave any significant advantage to either product, and in some cases it even seemed to put them at a
    disadvantage. Both firms were able to provide good reasons for including these flags in their products.
    liuhaotian
        10
    liuhaotian  
       2015-05-02 14:57:51 +08:00
    我现在有点理不清时间轴。
    http://www.av-test.org/fileadmin/pdf/VB-AVC-AVT-press-release.pdf
    http://av-test.com/tests/projects/av-test_tencent_performance_issue.pdf

    这两个哪一个先发布?在前一个文件中已经提到说“知道 QQ、百度有这样的标记,但是这样没有任何有利之处甚至某些时候反而不利”。

    抱歉,之前直接从 pdf 复制没做处理。
    As part of the investigation into Qihoo 360, counter‐accusations were levelled by the company against two fellow Chinese security firms, Baidu and Tencent. Analysis of products submitted for testing by these companies turned up some unexpected flags within their products, marked with the names of several test labs and implying some difference in product behavior depending on the environment they were run in – similar flags were also found in Qihoo products. However, no evidence could be found that this gave any significant advantage to either product, and in some cases it even seemed to put them at a disadvantage. Both firms were able to provide good reasons for including these flags in their products.
    eastphoton
        11
    eastphoton  
       2015-05-02 15:08:12 +08:00
    @liuhaotian
    前者是4.30正式发布的 参见 http://weblog.av-comparatives.org/?p=504
    后者标注的日期是5.1,不过官方说该文档内容还未调查完成,只是第三方泄漏链接
    ryd994
        12
    ryd994  
       2015-05-02 15:22:17 +08:00   ❤️ 1
    360:怎么能就我一个死?要死大家一起死!
    RIcter
        13
    RIcter  
       2015-05-02 15:23:36 +08:00
    XP 挑战赛的时候,各大厂商拿出来的东西哪个能在普通电脑上用?

    一个个都是五十步笑百步而已。
    zxcv12345
        14
    zxcv12345  
       2015-05-02 15:40:07 +08:00 via Android
    在龙国,这是政治问题
    lhx2008
        15
    lhx2008  
       2015-05-02 15:44:21 +08:00
    @liuhaotian 感觉这个网站是360水军,专黑别人
    mcone
        16
    mcone  
       2015-05-02 16:15:42 +08:00
    根据数字公司的常态,死也要拉上企鹅,不是很好理解么

    再说企鹅也不是没缝的鸡蛋,所以被查出来也不意外
    mrjoel
        17
    mrjoel  
       2015-05-02 18:34:14 +08:00
    互咬
    Moto
        18
    Moto  
       2015-05-02 18:42:33 +08:00
    都是一群流氓,只不过腾讯更流氓,狗日的腾讯,谁让他社交在中国是霸主,霸主说我就流氓,你能拿他怎么样。
    sammo
        19
    sammo  
       2015-05-02 19:52:03 +08:00 via Android
    “ 我們是不是需要用謊言去打擊那些說謊的敵人?難道事實還不夠有力嗎?
       那麼,如果我們真的需要用謊言去打擊說謊的敵人,那隻不過是滿足了我們一時泄恨、發泄的需要而矣!
       那麼,這個事情是很危險的事情,因為也許你的謊言會先被揭穿,那麼之後的話你再也沒有力氣去打擊你的敵人了。 ” via 侯德建
    sunyang
        20
    sunyang  
       2015-05-02 21:54:30 +08:00
    数字的逻辑就是我被暴露不好,原因是环境不好,大家都这样。对于谁先开始拉低下限,只字不提。
    lloovve
        21
    lloovve  
       2015-05-02 22:15:08 +08:00 via iPhone
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