买粉。 但有意义么。

能有一小撮人讨论起来是最好的。 启动的有 10 来个
至少有一个项目在应用。
这样就真的有动力继续了

有没 17.3 用的包包?

@also24
组员：我觉得我们应该把 xx 拆分出去，方便下个项目复用
组长：你妹的这个项目工期还有 3 天了，你给下个项目省时间有个鬼用，别管啦。
组员：项目完工了，我们可以拆分了吧？
组长：得，跑得好好的，改出问题来你负责啊？

@random0O
怪不得 JavaBean 这么流行

String getName(){ return this.name; } 就解决了？

有什么用， 在 PC Web 上搜，跳到 头条 App ?

@Rocka firefox 不能渲染 winding 字体。

一般用驼峰。

下划线公开方法用于不推荐但不得不公开的方法， 如回调。

下划线公开成员用于来自配置的变量，配置里用下划线。

@vincel PHP 必须解析 XML 才能开工？ 那么 PHP 快速开发的趋势在哪。
有名的东西，并不见得优秀，Smarty 祸害了多少年？
问题是很多框架让作者把时间花在框架的理解上而不是核心代码上。
这就是我为什么提到的 优秀的框架， 和框架耦合的代码越少越好。

规模大，是因为额外需求多才大。不要想着用户要有那么多非核心需求先。
比如数据库，就不应该是框架的核心。
比如 .env 的解析这也不应该是框架的核心。

核心+扩展组件，扩展组件可以单独用，这才是最好的方式。

@wnh3yang slim 用了下面几个组件
container-interop pimple 处理 DI

monolog 做 Log 处理
fast-route 做 路由。


psr container http-message log // 这一堆现在的 PHP 框架都等着进官方扩展的。

slim /phpview 做模板，不用也可以

@jourdon 可以把那些组件单独拿出来，不要耦合太紧

迁移方便。 我不希望我代码和框架有太多耦合。

混用方便， 即 其他框架嵌入我的框架很容易。或我的框架嵌入其他框架也很容易

虽然看不懂，看上去很厉害的样子

搞得太复杂了，没文档没法看懂

他说的是设置 .htaccess 吧，配置 path_info

@duola 不认识。上次在 github 讨论议题里加了这个需求，没见回应。


```
class MedooFixed extends \Medoo\Medoo
{
public function exec($query, $map = [])
{
if (isset($map[0])) {
array_unshift($map, null);
unset($map[0]);
}
return parent::exec($query, $map);
}
}
```
这就可以 $medoo->exec("select * from table_name where name=? and des=? " ,['a','b']);
方便多了

@doyouhaobaby 问题是，这解决了什么问题，“优雅” ？

不，是一群 JAVA 化的人员把大家带入的坑而已。
psr6 和 psr16 的故事。


如果坑了足够多的人，就可以让以后的学习者不得不捏着鼻子用。

中间件明明可以用两个接口，before ,after，却为了优雅，函数化，做成了一个。
不去考虑是否方便调试。
这背离了 PHP 方便，快速开发的初衷。

public function handle($request, Closure $next)
{
////
return $next($request);
}

再来个调试方面的问题，你能从堆栈里看出什么信息么？

#0 xx\Action\HomeAction->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/HandlerTrait.php:20]
#1 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\AbstractHandler->handle() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/voltage/RouterDispatchHandler.php:30]
#2 Lit\Voltage\RouterDispatchHandler->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/HandlerTrait.php:20]
#3 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\AbstractHandler->handle() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/MiddlewareTrait.php:43]
#4 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\AbstractMiddleware->delegate() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:75]
#5 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->loop() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:28]
#6 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\{closure}()
#7 call_user_func() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Handlers/CallableHandler.php:38]
#8 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\CallableHandler->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/HandlerTrait.php:20]
#9 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\AbstractHandler->handle() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/MiddlewareTrait.php:43]
#10 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\AbstractMiddleware->delegate() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:75]
#11 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->loop() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:65]
#12 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/MiddlewareTrait.php:33]
#13 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\AbstractMiddleware->process() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:78]
#14 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->loop() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:28]
#15 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\{closure}()
#16 call_user_func() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Handlers/CallableHandler.php:38]
#17 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\CallableHandler->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/HandlerTrait.php:20]
#18 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\AbstractHandler->handle() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/MiddlewareTrait.php:43]
#19 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\AbstractMiddleware->delegate() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/bolt/Middlewares/EventsHub.php:57]
#20 Lit\Bolt\Middlewares\EventsHub->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/MiddlewareTrait.php:33]
#21 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\AbstractMiddleware->process() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:78]
#22 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->loop() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:28]
#23 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\{closure}()
#24 call_user_func() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Handlers/CallableHandler.php:38]
#25 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\CallableHandler->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/HandlerTrait.php:20]
#26 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\AbstractHandler->handle() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/MiddlewareTrait.php:43]
#27 Lit\Bolt\Middlewares\RequestContext->delegate() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/bolt/Middlewares/RequestContext.php:35]
#28 Lit\Bolt\Middlewares\RequestContext->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/MiddlewareTrait.php:33]
#29 Lit\Bolt\Middlewares\RequestContext->process() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:78]
#30 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->loop() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Middlewares/MiddlewarePipe.php:65]
#31 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\MiddlewarePipe->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/MiddlewareTrait.php:33]
#32 Lit\Nimo\Middlewares\AbstractMiddleware->process() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/bolt/BoltApp.php:60]
#33 Lit\Bolt\BoltApp->main() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/nimo/Traits/HandlerTrait.php:20]
#34 Lit\Nimo\Handlers\AbstractHandler->handle() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/zendframework/zend-httphandlerrunner/src/RequestHandlerRunner.php:95]
#35 Zend\HttpHandlerRunner\RequestHandlerRunner->run() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/vendor/litphp/runner-zend-sapi/BoltZendRunner.php:21]
#36 Lit\Runner\ZendSapi\BoltZendRunner::run() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/zzz/z/myproject/public/index.php:9]

顺便对比 DNMVCS 的：

#0 MY\Controller\Main->index() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/DNMVCS/src/Core/Route.php:190]
#1 DNMVCS\Core\Route->run() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/DNMVCS/src/Core/App.php:246]
#2 DNMVCS\Core\App->run() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/DNMVCS/src/Core/App.php:87]
#3 DNMVCS\Core\App::RunQuickly() called at [/mnt/d/MyWork/sites/DNMVCS-FullTest/public/index.php:13]

都是在控制器方法里加这段代码

echo '<pre>';
debug_print_backtrace(2);
echo '</pre>';exit;