@feuvan I don't think programmers are code monkey. I truly respect programmers, as well as their input into the firm. Especially for a Internet-based firm perhaps the most valuable employees are the ones from the IT department. I too despise anyone who belittles programmers contribution as well as their importance to the entire operation of the firm. And I personally is amazed by the world you guys vision and beyond, it truly is completely different to what many would think otherwise, in a good way.